I Have No Regret Why I Did A Duet With Tuface–Victor Olaiya
most peolpe have been confused why Dr. Victor Olaiya decided to do a music collaboration with Tuface...this is what he has to say.......
Your recent collaboration with Tuface Idibia is the talk of the moment. How did it come about?
Premier Records and Spinlet put heads
together to commission us to do the collaboration in order to bring
something that will be a novelty in the music industry.
So it wasn’t your idea or his?
No, it wasn’t any of our ideas. The idea
was formulated by Spinlet and Premier Recording Company. I was
approached and I viewed it and I told them there was sense in the
collaboration.
But you have not really done such a collaboration before…
Oh yes, I had for some time refused to
collaborate with any individual. I wasn’t able to measure the degree of
what they could contribute to my music. Most of my numbers, over the
years, have been hit numbers. I couldn’t imagine anybody could come and
make it ‘hiter’ or better.
Was the collaboration worth your while? Do you have any misgivings?
I don’t have any regret so far. It is the talk of the town now and it gives me joy.
Why Tuface?
The chap involved is very talented. He is respectful and respectable and highly gifted. He has the qualities.
Would you have agreed to this project if any other artiste was considered?
They say the taste of the pudding is in
the eating. I would have listened to anybody brought my way. I wouldn’t
have been able to determine the musical qualities of the individual
until I had tasted it and considered it what I would love. Tuface is
gifted. I adore him, I admire him and I love him. He has most of the
qualities I would expect of a young lad like him.
Going by the success of this collaboration, would you have wished you considered this move earlier than now?
I wouldn’t have thought of it. I was
successful. Over the years, my lyrics have been hot cake in the market.
Even before I was nominated to play at the Independence Ball in the 60s,
my music was on top. In fact, the idea of collaboration came on a few
years ago when artistes felt they wouldn’t be able to do it all alone so
they needed somebody to join them. But I was doing it alone and I
didn’t have such feeling until this suggestion and I decided to give it a
thought.
Do we see you collaborating with any of your contemporaries or those that came after you?
Most of my contemporaries no longer
exist. The chances of collaborating with them are cancelled. The only
people I could collaborate with are the up and coming ones. I will try
and see which ones are talented.
As much as the present generation artistes are making it more commercially, are you comfortable with their lyrics?
I do not agree with most of their
lyrics. In my days, I made sure that anything I composed or dished out
to the public is not only musical, but also educative and poetic and it
must convey sense and good music. It is a concord of sweet music. I
think we have to re-plan with the youth and tell them to go back to the
archives and be able to do something meaningful and educative and
musical. I am not criticising; I am not even a critic as such. But most
of the things I hear and watch on the TV, they don’t give me much to
desire. They don’t give me the full joy of a good musical composition.
However, no matter what we say, they are getting on with it and making
money from it. Everybody wants to be a musician and there is nothing we
can do about it. With time, I hope they will improve and we have a
better ‘musical’ tomorrow.
Watching the video, it is obvious that age is not telling on your dance moves. How did you retain such dexterity?
It is just God’s grace and guidance. I
do a lot of physical exercise as well to keep the body and soul going. I
rehearse with the band every Wednesday. Every Saturday, from 11pm, we
play till the sunrise on Sunday. A lot of people wonder how I have been
able to manage at this age. But this is something I have done over the
years.
Of all instruments, why did you choose to play the trumpet?
I would say it was by accident or
design. I played the drum in the school band in my school, Africa School
Onitsha in 1946. I was playing the A flat French horn, then B flat
French horn. I discovered my band leader, Chris Odiachi, was on the B
flat cornet. The cornet has the tendency of piercing through all the
instrument. It was dominating the lyrics. I loved that very much. I
appeared to have a domineering stance, which was why I played football
as well. I decided to go for the trumpet. It was easy to manipulate the
B flat trumpet. It was easier to play than the cornet. I have never got
tired of playing the instrument and I will not get tired until the
stars lose their glory.
Why didn’t you concentrate on football?
The football we were playing in those
days was during the time of Teslim Balogun and Inyang Henshaw. We were
all playing at Onikan Stadium then. Football wasn’t something anybody
could write home about. We were just playing for the love of football.
As time went on, the teams weren’t stable. I found out I was more
inclined to music than football. I found more joy in music. On one
occasion, I was marking Teslim (Thunderbolt) Balogun. I was playing for
Land and Survey and he was playing for Pan Bank. So as I was marking him
in the game, Thunder pinned down my right toe as we were going to head a
ball. He aimed at my right toe and pressed it down. It was very
painful. I watched him. After a while, I decided to return the hat
trick, the referee had to warn me. He saw what I did but he didn’t see
Thunder when he did his own. The pain went on for a while. I eventually
concentrated on music.
Was music something to write home about then?
We found joy in music. I, ABC Cole and
Bala Mila. We wanted to do something. Bobby Benson was dominating the
whole scene that time. We put our heads together and formed a band in
the 50s.
So the band was formed to primarily deflate Bobby Benson’s dominance. Did you succeed?
That wasn’t the main intention. We had
to make good use of our leisure and we started doing music. We even
succeeded. Bobby was playing jazz and we were ‘managing’ to play
highlife. What we started with was nothing to write home about but we
got better with practices. When the late Fela Anikulapo Kuti left
school, he came to join my band. It was with my band that he learnt to
play the trumpet. He was one of my scholars. He had music in him anyway.
By the time he left school, he was already playing the piano. As at the
time he joined us, our band already had a good name. He was able to
manipulate the trumpet very well before he now went to England.
But before you formed you own band, you were with Bobby Benson…
Yes. I broke away from him to form my
band. I was leading one of the strings. He had about four strings and he
was leading one and me and somebody were leading one jointly.
Did you quarrel with Bobby Benson?
We had a minor quarrel. But that wasn’t
the main reason I left. We had nursed the ambition of forming our band.
The night we had that simple disagreement, ABC Cole jumped at the
opportunity and told me that we must go and form our own band.
Can you still recall what caused the disagreement between you and Bobby?
I remember. Each time I closed, he
usually gave me transport to take me home to my Tinubu Square antique
father’s house. I cannot remember what actually happened that evening
but Bobby wanted me to take a solo on the trumpet. I told him I wasn’t
keen. He asked me to repeat what I said. I told him that I wasn’t keen. I
didn’t know he had memorised the word ‘keen’. When the show ended, I
went to him for my transport fare and he told me he wasn’t ‘keen’. ABC
Cole who was watching just took me home. That was how I left the band
and I never returned. I didn’t even collect my pay.
Why didn’t you play jazz like him?
I had flair for highlife and not jazz.
Each time we played highlife, I discovered the floor was always
jam-packed. It was a good attraction for me.
You eventually broke away from the band. Why?
We got divided for inevitable reasons.
The band became so big and powerful. People started tempting players out
of the band. Bala Mila eventually left Lagos. I and ABC Cole fell out. I
had to manage the band solo. I was to go to England to study Law but
the boys in the band appealed to me. They told me we should play for a
while before I leave. All the money I saved, I used in buying second
hand instrument and we continued playing.
What happened to the dream of going to England?
It was abandoned till now. It got to a
point I wasn’t talking about going to school. My band had become so big.
I played at the Independence Ball. Then again, it was at that time that
Daily Times started the Miss Nigeria beauty pageant. I was
nominated to play at the show. I was backed up with big publicity. We
played in so many cities. My brother was the one that decided we should
go to England to study. I told him that he should go ahead and I would
join him later. But I eventually, discovered that I had bookings even
till the following year and I had even issued receipts. I had to tell
him he should go and that I would join him. This was what caused the end
of my first marriage.
Really?
Yes. I had to ask my wife to proceed to
England so that I could complete all the engagement I had in order to
avoid people who had booked and paid me taking me to court. I was going
to join her but eventually, I didn’t. We had to part. I had to stay put.
My brother qualified, came back and still met me playing music.
So after the marriage crashed, you got married again and again?
Hmmm… Yes.
How many wives do you have now?
I have not taken the delight to count
the number of wives. Suffice it to say that I am respectably married
with children. At the moment, I have one wife. I managed to wriggle out.
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